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    Posted: Jun/08/2015 at 6:10pm
Hi ,im New to here so here goes,about 2years ago now I had an MRI scan done to reveal a displaced vertabry, a slipped disc and arthritis all in my lower spine and pelvis,during this time I have had various medications ,to no avail,,now thO, I keep getting the feeling of numbness in both my feet ,and the only way to discribe it to be is like having wet socks on with elastic bands round them,then they get hot like burning ,then they cramp,,I am back at the doctor's on Monday but feel like they don't listen nor understand it's so frustrating ,reading this back I sound bonkers....
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Hi HaSon and welcome here,

After you had the MRI done were you referred to a back surgeon?  If not, and if your symptoms are progressing you should be.

But, having said that, there can be other causes of what sounds like neuropathy in your feet.  Do you have diabetes?  Any other medical conditions other than your spinal issues?

Please let us know a bit more about what is happening, and again we welcome you here.  Stevie

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Hi HaSon
 
To start with - you are not bonkers - people who are bonkers never think about it and never talk about it - trust me - I have read that line or similar often
 
You description of the pain in your feet it graphic and gives me a good idea of what it might feel like - that is very much coming from your spine - esp the numbness
 
You are here now and we accept you - you never have to worry about us thinking strange thoughts about your interesting description - I have that feeling if I wear socks that are too thick for the shoes I am wearing
 
Don't let the doctor dismiss you - insist on being heard - that can be hard I know
 
But if you have something that is causing numbness that is actually more important that things that cause pain - if the doctor seems to be in a hurry ask for a longer appointment - tell him this is really distressing you
 
I am so glad you have found us - so many of us have had to justify ourselves to the medical profession - and seeing as in the long run we pay them - it is very crass of them to brush you off
 
I can't tell what's causing this discomfort - but I care about it - and I believe you
 
You have a new family now - and we really do accept each other and we accept you too
 
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Hi Stevie,thanks for answering me,I saw a back surgeon and they said they could not operate because it is all connected to my pelvis ,I was thrown from a horse in my early twenties the damaged my back then,but years ago there was no MRI so just xray and pain killers now years down the line all this,I had injections in my spine in January but only got 4weeks pain free but now all this in my legs and feet and taking top dose of gabapenton and naproxen and paracetamol , I did wonder about diabetes so asked to get tested ,came back negative ,they also filled out thyroid ..
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Hi Merlin, thank you so much ,it's good to know I'm not a burden ,I feel my friends dismiss me when I say I'm in pain ,I work full time ,I have to ,to pay the bills,I'm not one of these ones that sit on there behind and moan about it ,but because I do work they assume I'm fine ,it's true that chronic pain is a hidden subject ,because you can't see it ,it doesn't exists ,when all you want to do is scream ,I'm in pain ..
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There is NO excuse for being dismissed so lightly.  If you didn't get the answers you need and deserve from this one back surgeon, please go back to your GP and insist upon another opinion. 

I understand your health care system and the long waits, but if these symptoms in your feet are new since you saw that back surgeon, you DO need to be re-evaluated, and if the MRI was longer than 2 years ago, it needs to be repeated.  Don't give up----there is always help and answers out there, but it takes persistence and patience and we all know how difficult that is when pain is involved.

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Hi Hason,
like Stevie and Marlin said there isn't anything crazy about your symptoms even if Gp can't find why. There are many possibilities that can explain your symptoms. I think in Uk they are less incline to operate. Hason don't hesitate to change Gp if your not satisfied but that's a general complain in UK not to be listened or understood by GP which they can't in 5 min.    
I think in your case you might benefit from seeing an osteopath who does fascial and neuromuscular techniques. It's seems like your sciatic nerve could be involve but it might be chemical irritation as oppose to compression due to proximal inflammation happening. Do you know if you have osteophytes?
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hi hason...

i do have extensive experience with your discomfort...

mine is caused by spinal stenosis, a hormonal imbalance and type 2 diabetes...

you dont need a complete diagnosis to get some relief. ask your dr if you can try lyrica. another drug that might help is neurontin...

try walking barefoot on a grassy surface. it may help ground out the electrical charge built up in your feet.

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Welcome and never worry about being a burden here!! We are all dealing with crappy pain issues and understand.
I have to work full time too, so I really understand your pain. I have to stay in the office everyday, 5 days a week, for 8-10 hours, and I go home ready to SCREAM. I take a handful of medications to help too.
If you can't get the answers you need from one doctor, you should try to get them from another one, if possible. It is hard to try to go from one doc to another, but we all need these other opinions to help us figure out what is really going on in our backs.
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Thank you so much to all you lovely people who have taken time to reply ,,I have a doctor's appointment for Monday ,with a doctor I have seen before ,,that is one of the problems in the UK NHS system ,you never seem to get the same doctor unless you are prepared to wait weeks ,so I will let you all know how it goes ,if I can get somewhere ,I hope he puts me for a scan as you say ,there has to be an explanation as to where this pain is from ,one again I thank you all xx
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Best Wishes for Monday!!!!  I know how hard this is in your system, but persistence pays off and I hope so much you'll get some answers.  Please keep trying.  Stevie xx

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I sometimes feel ice cold water running down my leg but it is dry and warm to touch. Mine is from nerve compression in lumbar spine. It really is a strange feeling. My big toe feels like something is wrapped around it and the ball of that foot feels like a piece of paper is stuck to it. I am always checking and find nothing. Nerves can cause odd sensations.
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yah me too. at least youre feeling something. my feet are as dead as a door nail. whats worse is when you want to move the toes and you cant...pal pete
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Yeah Pete. I feel lucky I still have sensation in my feet. I am sure no feeling would be very difficult to deal with and is a danger as you would not notice an injury.
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hey the big toe nearly put me 6 ft. under a few months ago. i think you were a nurse so you will understand this...

was on my stomach doing leg lifts. toe hit floor causing blood blister. slight infectionstarted... then since i have autoimmune system condition that attacks platelets i developed a blood infection. my local hospital said i had to go to boston by ambulance and that i might not make it but steroids and 3 antibiotics saved me. all that from hitting toe on floor...Dead
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Ouch Pete!!
 
Nene - I believe symptoms - as against signs - signs are what the doctor can see - or get proof through tests
 
Symptoms are what the patient reports - and imo it is the symptoms are the strongest evidence - and I am interest in that feeling of cold water running down your leg.
 
Is it on the outside of your leg or the inside - and is it in both legs
 
It could be sciatica - that pain comes from pressure in the L4/L5 disc
 
Let's hope you can find what's doing this - it sounds very uncomfortable -
 
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Ouch Pete! Yes I have been an RN for 40 years. Merlin. I do have sciatica from 4-5. Also have disc issues at l5-s1. Severe weakness left leg and pain on right. Cold water feeling is on right. I have a great go and seeing pain management.
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Hi Nene - I am glad you are seeing someone about pain management - they vary as I have read on this site - but I am one of the lucky ones and I have a good specialist
 
I'm not an expert on this - but that cold water feeling could be sciatica - it comes from the lumbar spine and I have a numb patch on my left thigh and it is  a weird feeling
 
Maybe our brains figure out how they will tell us there is a problem when things are numb - because some numb feelings are a part of chronic pain - as I have found -
 
When you see your pain specialist - tell your doctor about that one - I think numb feelings are as important as pain - it's telling us that something is not quite right
 
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HaSon, didn't mean to hijack your thread. Just wanted to validate your feelings. Nerve pain can be very odd and drive you nuts. I hope you got some answers.
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HaSon, I started getting the wet feet feeling after getting the injections in my back. Once I told this to the doctor he released me and said he was done with me. 

I was in a truck accident and went though 2 spinal surgeries. First one was removing 1/2 my L5S1 disc. That left me with the bones grinding. The second was fusion with hardware (Bars and screws). The injections were done after the surgeries. 

I was told that one of these doctors had pierced my spinal cord causing my disease called Arachnoiditis. 

I've been in terrible since.  Going on 17 years now. 
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Sorry for your pain Rick. 17 years, wow.
I get the feeling of water splashing on my leg that has sciatic pain in it.
Not sure it's along the same line. Hope you get some answers.


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Nothing can be done for me. Been on all kinds of pain meds just to keep me sane. I just hope I don't get any worse. I try to stay active but everything I do makes the pain worse. I can't sleep in bed either. Lying down is one of the worst positions that creates even more pain. I keep going day to day.
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Hi ,well since I was on here last I have had a MRI brain scan and the top of my spine scanned ,also electrode shock treatment on my hands and feet ,,the shock treatment came back negative so they have ruled out peripheral neuropathy,but my MRI scan showed up a bulging disc at the top of my spine and an abnormality in my brain scan so of back to the neurologist to see what they say ,,so no further forwards really ..
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Can you tell us what level the bulging disc is?  And what does the scan say about your brain abnormality?  So many things that show up on MRI's, especially in the brain scan can be an artifact, or something that truly means nothing.  I hope that is the fact in your case. 

I hope you see the Neurologist quickly so that you can get answers.  Please keep us posted.

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Originally posted by ricks ricks wrote:

HaSon, I started getting the wet feet feeling after getting the injections in my back. Once I told this to the doctor he released me and said he was done with me
 
Hi Ricks and HaSon - Welcome to our website - we all have pain here and so we understand how it changes our lives and how difficult things can be
 
Ricks - I am curious - why would a doctor release you when you told him your feet felt wet - this is a strange thing - I am wondering if I understood you correctly
 
But 17 years is a long time to be in pain - and it seems - intractable pain.
 
Did the injections you had into your spine help at all -
 
And yes - it is a horrible place to be in
 
But I am glad you have found us - and you to HaSon -
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Originally posted by ricks ricks wrote:

Nothing can be done for me. Been on all kinds of pain meds just to keep me sane. I just hope I don't get any worse. I try to stay active but everything I do makes the pain worse. I can't sleep in bed either. Lying down is one of the worst positions that creates even more pain. I keep going day to day.


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Hi I don't know the answers to your questions as I have not seen the scan myself yet ,hopefully see neurologist soon and he will explain more ,I have opted not to take medication just now although this is driving me a bit nuts , my view is if they don't know what it is how do they know what medication to give me ,,between ,numbness,wet feet,then there hot,cold ,then cramp ,to thinking I'm peeing all the time ,leg pain to now thinking my knees are wet ,yip wet feeling in my knees as,well ,,from the waist down my body doesn't feel like mine .
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