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    Posted: Nov/28/2015 at 7:07pm
Hi All,

I'm a CPS member who happens to use medical marijauna, aka mmj. I also find the stigma of using mmj, even worse than using opioids. Yep, something makes me cringe and duck my head even more than when the pharmacist announces my OxyContin is ready.

But I do believe it helps me, and may offer one more option to others dealing with cp. I'm no expert, but I do live in Canada and have had my medical authorization for several years. Like all of my pain medications, it was prescribed by my pain specialist and we often discuss how I'm using it. He prefers it be used in ways other than smoking, consuming and topically applying it are much safer than smoking.

It is legal with medical authorization, in all of Canada,

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/index-eng.php

The link is to the governments regulations.
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Canada is leap years ahead of the States. At least it seems in my very humble opinion.

So all one in Canada needs to do is to go to their GP for a license? Or their PM Dr?

Thank you very much for starting this thread, and even if we don't receive specific posts to your thread, we can and will use this forum and include the link to Canadian members who are not getting pain relief from traditional means and could use help in obtaining a license in Canada.  I have put the link you included in your above post for Canadians looking for the rules and regs in the Announcement at the top of this Forum.  We have both the US and Canada now and welcome every country.

Oh, and please feel free to give us ways to use MMJ other than smoking it as I know many of us don't want to put our lungs at risk. And by this question, I'm asking about vaporizers? Ingesting or using creams take awhile to get into
the system. Smoking is instantaneous, although there are health risks, so I'm wondering if using a vaporizer is a better choice!

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I posted this in the US MMJ Thread also. Just a short note on vaporizers.

A vaporizer takes the harshness away and you don't get the cough you would get just from smoking it. If you get the right vaporizer where price is related to vapor quality, which can be expensive,,,,, the better the vaporizer the smoother the inhale is. 100% better than smoking it. I THINK, it is easier on the lungs using the vaporizer than inhaling harsh smoke into the lungs.

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The rules changed this year and are continuing to evolve. But currently you need to

 

1 Consult with a healthcare practitioner

2 Obtain a medical document completed by your healthcare practitioner

3 Register and order with a licensed producer

4 Accept delivery of your marijuana for medical purposes

 

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/access-acceder-eng.php

 

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/alt_formats/pdf/marihuana/info/med-eng.pdf

 

Dispensaries are in a grey zone, so obtaining anything besides dried mmj is very problematic to most patients at this time. However after the law changed allowing only dried forms of mmj,  the courts recently confirmed  medical patients authority to alter and consume the mj in other forms. So dispensaries are already open and more will be opening all the time.

 

I’m fortunate to have gotten my license under the original Health Canada program. This allows me to grow a small amount of my own mmj ensuring the quality of anything I consume. This lets me experiment making different medicines, but I’ve just started trying to make my own topical and edible products.

 

Smoking vs vaporising. There are entire sites devoted to this topic. What I’ve read, vaporising is easier on the lungs than smoking. I’m talking about dried mmj, smoked in a rolled up form most of us know as a joint, versus dried mmj, inhaled using a device that vaporises it instead of burning it.

 

What I know is that vaporising uses temperatures in the range of 285F-340F and produces a vapor that doesn’t cause as much coughing as smoking a joint, which starts burning around 450F but increases to over 1000F when inhaling the smoke.

 

The much higher temperatures also release lots of harmful ingredients. There are many sites you can find information about the differences between the two methods. Personally I find the effects much milder using a vaporiser and having started to use mmj by smoking it, find that helps me in the most reliable fashion.

 

Smoking approx. ½ of a small joint helps relax some of the spasming muscles and decreases my pain level a noticeable amount.

 

You can reduce some of the harshness of smoking by choosing a natural, unbleached paper but I am not recommending smoking as a preferred method of consuming mmj. Smoking anything is harmful to your lungs.  I’ve never used any of the pipe devices so I can’t speak to their efficacy or harm.

 

Until just recently, the only other way I used mmj on a regular basis, was with an alcohol based tincture. This can be added by the drop, to different drinks, or under the tongue. I use it in hot black tea which lets the tiny amount of alcohol in the tincture evaporate.

 

Using it this way gives me a little more get up and go and combined with the tea can help me get more done. It seems to hold the pain off so I can work in longer bursts.

 

I’m just expanding into making my own topical and edible products. I’ve infused some butter and coconut oil with dried mmj and then used that to make candies, capsules and the most basic topical there is.

 

I’ve had very mixed results so far but none had the type of negative effects common prescription meds have caused me. The topical product seems to reduce local pain, but is too messy so far to use regularly. I’m going to take a class on making your own pain cream because I think this is a definite plus to my daily pain relief regimen.

 

There are a million things I want to try, but unless you go slow and give each individual thing a chance to work, you’ll never know what’s working. And while consuming too much may not be fatal, it can be very uncomfortable.

 

Hope I answered something and didn’t make it more confusing.

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Wow. Thank you for all the Canadian members and guests who will benefit from your very detailed information.

What I find most interesting is the incredibly broad way MMJ can be used. And how many different illnesses can be helped by its use.

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Hi, 
Thank you for posting. 
I watched an interesting show about a Brit soldier that had been shot in the head and was using Hash in the UK although it was against the law. The pain doctor who was well known in the UK agreed it probably helped because he was also having a terrible time with seizures. She  was studying the chemical in hash. I can't remember the name of it, but it has medical purposes she theorized.. 
I had a doctor that told me I should move to CO or CA and maybe try it, but I tried it once or twice in the 70's when I was a teenager and hated it. I, at that time, decided girls, cars, and guitars were a much better thing to pursue. Not in any order, and those days are long gone thank god! 
Thanks though for the info. I am a big time anarcho-capitalists politically, and can't for the life of me see why people get arrested for having a dang weed in their pocket. But, that's another subject.  I hope you're well and have a pain free day and more!
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Yes, mmj can be used to treat many different conditions. From fresh leaves to extremely refined, concentrated products.
 
Marijuana contains over 400 natural compounds. Around 80 of these are found only in mj and are considered "active". The most well known and studied are THC and CBD. Each of these compounds produces different effects, relieving different symptoms. 
 
Hash is a dried, pressed type of mj product, that concentrates all of the compounds found in the plant. It can be smoked, vaped or eaten. Because it's a concentrated product, it's effects are stronger.
 
There are millions of people who use mmj and there are incredible stories of curing just about everything from it. One of the things mmj works miracles on is seizures, google Charlottes Web if you're interested.
 
 
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Hi guys,

I've noticed some interest on the mmj forum and see a couple members including our fearless leader Stevie, are interested in trying mmj for themselves.

My pain specialist first prescribed  mmj for me over 5 years ago. That was after my gp had tried me on nabilone, a prescription synthetic of a single component of mj.

I'm also authorised to grow my own cannabis and do so. This provides me with a supply of completely organic cannabis and whatever varieties I think might best help my symptoms.

To start with, I either smoked it, or used a vaporizer. I've progressed to using it in numerous ways with a lot of success. In fact I've decreased my pain meds, OxyContin and oxycodone, by over 80% and am hoping to get off them completely.

I currently use cannabis orally, sublingually, topically as well as smoking or vaporizing. I infuse it into butter and oils, and extract it into alcohol. With these base products, I can make medicated cookies or candies(werther's type butterscotch is my favourite), tinctures to go into tea or under your tongue, and some topical products that have amazed me with how well they really work.

I'm no expert, but I have learned quite a bit and will try to help answer your questions if I can. It's taken 5 years to share this information. That's how much I feel/fear the stigma of using this medicine. But anymore the stigma of opioids is more than I can deal with. And there's a constant fear that for whatever reason, losing my doctor or new regulations, the prescription pain meds will be taken away.

Plus, cannabis, mmj, works.
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I'm so proud of you Bailey. Thank you for helping us. All of us who are desperate for new ways to treat and manage CP.

Thank you for offering all of us ways to use this drug in ways that make our lives better.

And, I'm going to make a huge reminder on this thread and on our US site thread.
We are here to talk about the LEGAL ways our countries allow us to use. This is NO different than the ways we've treated this site for 8 years with the use of legal narcotics.

There is much to be learned about the use of MMJ. There are many ways to use this product and the most effective ways to use it.

For anyone and everyone who has questions about Canadain use, this is the place for you. For anyone and everyone who is looking for new and effective ways to use your MMJ ---this is the place for you as well as our thread about the use of MMJ in the States.

Who knows----we may be able to combine the two soon. In the meantime, thank you again, Bailey. I have to come up quickly on the learning curve. You are a great person, a loyal member of our CPS family for years and the most caring and supportive person I know to offer help and answer questions.

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If anyone is interested in trying mmj, but scared of the side effects, I' d like to suggest trying a topical product. I've been experimenting making topical lotions with a couple friends(all three of us over 50 and long term cp patients) and we are all amazed at the results we're getting.

We've given samples to some other medical people, including a retired RN and a practicing pain management Doctor, both of whom also expressed surprise at how well they work.

This is the first thing besides very strong prescription pain meds, OxyContin and oxycodone, that has/is providing me with noticeable relief. I've stopped taking 120mg a day and plan on stopping the final 15 mg very soon.

There's a large "but" however. This is a lot more work trying to manage the pain, than popping a couple pills 3 times a day. It's cold here, there was snow yesterday. It's not easy or comfortable for me to apply lotion to a large part of my body several times a day. As soon as I feel cold, my back and neck get even tighter and the spasms can get very bad.

Just reaching some areas is impossible without an aid, this product works well for me

https://www.ablemart.com/skinfinity-personal-lotion-applicator-and-skin-care-system

but within 15 minutes of applying the lotion, my pain decreases by a noticeable amount. I really wasn't expecting anything from a topical. I had a little relief from a prescription compounded lotion, but it had both lidocaine and ketamine in it. The relief from these cannabis infused lotions, is far superior to any Voltaren or prescription lotion I've tried.

As a bonus, no one has experienced any side effects from the topicals. Except for a sensitivity to one of the essential oils I'm also playing around with. These can be added for their analgesic, anti-inflammatory and anti-spasmodic properties.

I'm not in any way saying this is a cure or I'm not in pain anymore. I am, all the time. But I am managing it. And the constant fear of losing my prescription meds because the doctors quit prescribing them or the govt changes the rules or the continually back ordered med doesn't show up, is going away.

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Great post, Bailey----

I'm just starting on the MMJ bandwagon and have a long way to go to build my tolerance to a point where I can start to wean off my medications. Fortunately, I don't take much----but it's still a weaning process. Congratulations on finding an alternative to only opioids and cutting down so much !!!

I also got a topical at the dispensary that has impressed me with how well it works, even though I'm not finding that it works for very long. Or, possibly because I'm mostly using it at night when I have nothing else on board for pain. But, it's soothing and warm and goes on easily. One of those aids would probably make it less messy. What I really like about the use of the topical are zero negative or physoactive effects.   Just pain relief----if only temporary.

So, for making the topical what do you like as a base? Do you heat your MMJ in the oven and then instill it into an oil and heat on the stove prior to straining it into the base? Or heat them together and then strain into a container? And what's the ratio of MJ to cream/oil? Or does it really not make a lot of difference which method you use? Those of us newbies hate making mistakes and wasting precious product.

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Hi Stevie,

First I need to be perfectly clear, I have no formal training of any kind in either medicine or cannabis use or preparation. Everything I'm doing I've learned from online or books.

I'm still trying different combinations, but grapeseed oil is one of my favourite base, or carrier oils. Right now I have on hand grapeseed, ricebran, olive, hempseed, sweet almond, jojoba, and coconut. And some very expensive emu oil I have yet to try. It's supposed to help "carry" the oil and medicine deep into the tissues.

I also just found a locally grown and produced, organic sunflower oil that I can't wait to try.

My first lotion I followed a recipe from this book, Cannabis Spa at Home

The instructions tell you to saturate 3 1/2 grams of cannabis in 1 cup of olive oil and then bake in a covered glass dish at 300 degrees for 30 minutes. Allow to cool and strain through several layers of cheesecloth.

This gives you a basic infused carrier oil to make into a lotion.
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You are a wealth of knowledge!!!!! You'll save me and other newbies who want a great topical that smells good and doesn't make a mess of our clothes a lot of time, energy and MONEY.

Something I've found is that there's a vast amount of information about MMJ on some very reputable sites, and the people working at the dispensaries are super nice and helpful. Also, for anyone else starring on this process, check with your dispensary for sales, specials and even discounts at certain times. For instance, I learned that my dispensary has an "early bird special" from 9-11am with a 15% off discount during those hours. So, as MMJ can be costly, every dollar off adds up:)

For anyone interested in learning to make lotions, potions and enjoy reading, the book Bailey mentioned, The Cannabis Spa at Home is great. I'm reading it now:)

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Time for an update, :)

After years of using both long lasting, CR, and fast acting, IR, opioids, I've gone 10 days with no CR meds and used 1 and a half days worth of IR meds.

In figures, I was taking 90 mg Oxy CR and 45 mg of Oxy IR daily. I'm off the CR meds and have taken only 5 or 10 mg of IR meds daily, in the last 10 days. I'm hoping with a little more time to get rid of the final 1 or 2 pills I'm taking.

I was afraid of serious withdrawal issues, never happened.i was afraid of huuuuge increase in pain, never happened. I can not wait to see my pain doc this week 😃

This has happened because of cannabis. Topicals, tinctures, edibles, vaping and sometimes smoking. I'm also going to start making CO, cannabis oil. I see blaze is having great success with it, as are many others.

The kind I'll make is called FECO, fully extracted cannabis oil. It's basically a tincture reduced to a thick oil. This gives you an extremely concentrated form of cannabis that can be ingested in tiny amounts. People are using it to help many types of illness from chron's and epilepsy to pain and cancer.

Making CO is Dangerous. You must use a solvent to strip the medicinal,properties from the dried cannabis. People use all kinds of dangerous solvents and fire'y explosions can be the result.

I'll use very high proof alcohol, Everclear 191 proof, to strip the oils from the dried cannabis, then you need to evaporate all the alcohol. Extremely flammable and dangerous.

Please do not attempt at home without educating yourself. If you' have dispensaries, they probably carry it. Don't order from the Internet, they aren't allowed to ship real CO. Many are advertising CBD oil. If it can be shipped anywhere, it's made from hemp not cannabis.

Really hope more pain folks can get more pain relief using less prescription meds. There are ways to use cannabis that do not cause any of the psychoactive side effects people associate with "smoking pot" There are even transdermal patches now available.

I'm also going to start using it to help with my dog's arthritis. Truly a wonder plant.
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Thanks for the update Bailey!!!!

I also am now down on my meds ( 30mg/day of Oxy IR), and off all muscle relaxants and anti-epileptics such as Lyrica and Gabapentin, and will continue to decrease the Oxy on a weekly basis as I become more familiar with the great uses of this plant. I'm using tinctures I make at home using the Everclear and even with that, anyone trying it needs to watch it constantly. Alcohol is extremely flammable. It can also be purchased from the dispensaries. I don't think I'll attempt the oil at home, but buy it once I have the topicals, tinctures and vaping down to the point I can keep my pain down. My next purchase from the dispensary is going to be lollipops to use when out in public. Of course, the topicals and tinctures are also something I carry with me at all times.

I think it's vital for anyone learning about the benefits of Cannabis to start out slowly and understand that side effects do go away. And the great thing is that there are many ways to use this effectively for pain relief without any feeling of being "high". It does NOT need to be smoked for pain relief. I haven't tried edibles yet ( the lollipops will be the first), but I'd definitely start out very, very slowly.

Keep the information coming, please, and a huge congratulations on just about being off all opioids 😃😃😃😃


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I read that marijuana is addictive in nature. What would be the advisable amount that could be taken in a day(I mean prescribed amount)? Do they vary according to the disease? How can we avoid marijuana addiction? 
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Hi brianmful,

You can find articles that will tell you almost anything :)

People can become addicted to almost anything, food, alcohol, computers, so I have no doubt a small percentage of people could have problems with over using cannabis. It doesn't cause the physical dependence associated with most pain meds, narcotics.

I'm not recommending this, but most " prescriptions" are for between 1 and 5 grams a day. Mine is 3. There has never been a recorded death for cannabis overdose. Compare that to any pharmaceutical pain medication.

Yes, doseage varies depending on the condition being treated and the method of ingestion. Smoking or vaporizing dried cannabis, requires far less product than turning it into a butter or oil for cooking, tinctures or topicals.

What meds are you currently taking? For what condition? Cannabis or MMJ can be helpful for many conditions, is one of the safest "drugs" available and if it has any addictive properties, they are minuscule compared to the pharmacy regularity prescribed to pain patients.

That doesn't mean it's right for everyone and if the idea of using it makes anyone uncomfortable, please don't feel we're trying to convince you to test it out. It's one option in our war on chronic pain.
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When MMJ is legalized in Canada....
Not just anyone can but it can they? Won't they have to have a license or proof that they are prescribed the MMJ? Won't it be highly taxed?
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Hi Roni :)

Once they get the law written, my understanding is it will be legal for anyone old enough. Talking with other medical people, the belief is that there will be an age restriction, probably 19. Hopefully it will be similar to wine or beer making rules, available to do it yourselfer's or at dispensaries.

I imagine it will be taxed, but if they want to get rid of the black market, the price will have to be less than on the street.
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In the 3 States where MJ is "legal", anyone can get it ( unsure what the age is), but remember there is a difference between MMJ which requires a license and MJ. So, in those States, it is more expensive for people to buy MJ if they don't have a license.

It's my belief that MMJ is legal in most Provences in Canada (please correct me if I'm wrong). So, for our members living in Canada, why wait until it's legal for everyone? Get your license now:). And please remember everyone reading our MMJ threads----just because something is legal, never take it if you are being prescribed pain medications without the approval of your Dr or other health care provider. I think that as Cannabis gains more and more acceptability, which it will, Dr's who don't approve will start testing patients for it. And, as good as the benefits are from Cannabis, there are many of us who will never be able to get by with MJ alone.

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MMJ is legal in all of Canada, if you have applied and filled out the paperwork. Up at the top of this thread, are listed the current rules and a couple links.

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I am a brand new mmj sign-up - haven't yet taken any. Anyone have experience of CBD oil taken orally for back pain? I am thinking of using a dropper to put it onto crackers, or a biscuit, or some such thing. All input welcomed .....
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Hi, and welcome to CPS.

I haven't used CBD oil, I hope if you do, you can let us know how it works for you.

I have had lots of relief using topicals, tinctures, edibles and vaporizing. I was able to stop using prescription pain meds after a couple years of learning and experimenting with different methods of using it. Best relief for me is topical products applied every couple hours.

Is your oil made from mmj or hemp?
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I started MMJ and they start you really low at first with the THC part. The CBD I tried as well but used a vaporizer which burnt my throat so glad to hear there's now oils available to try. I'm kind of reluctant because other than income tax deduction MMJ isn't covered by my Health Benefits like my narcotics are..
Made me sleepy and the higher THC which is only 12% gave me a headache and put me to sleep.  But I think I've had a bad experience with the vaping as I hate smoking and inhaling anything since quitting smoking by using Chantix which is a miracle drug to quit smoking....
off subject well let us know how the oil goes and the percentage of CBD you use. I'm still interested in trying the oil drops but concerned about the cost. Take care. Sara

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Have you tried tinctures or topicals or edibles?

So many options that are out there----topicals are great. No psychoactive properties. Oh, and set the vaporizer to a low setting. No burning:)

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It’s coming out of the closet and into the mainstream.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/manulife-joining-shoppers-drug-mart-in-medical-marijuana-program-1.4034480
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Thanks for this info Bailey, You would think paying Manulife monthly they could notify it's clients about this. I will have to get my Dr to get me a referral to the mmj clinic again as I can't use the weed as my throat gets sore. I don't know how to change it into a oil unless I boiled it as a tea but don't know how much I would be getting. Not sure of how to dispose of old weed. It's like 2015 since I used it. I do want to use oils etc whatever insurance pays for when it starts in the fall. I don't use Shoppers but will switch as I want to try to stop narcotics. Can't move barely without them or even shower. Great info. Sara
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Hi Sara,

You could use the old cannabis to make a topical for yourself. The most basic one can be made by simmering some ground up cannabis in coconut oil and then straining it.

You can infuse many kinds of oil or butter directly with cannabis. To make oil from it, you need to use a hi proof alcohol to extract all the cannibinoids and then separate the oil from the alcohol. A temperature controlled tabletop distiller is a safe and efficient way to make your own.

However, unless you are able to grow your own, the amount and cost of the cannabis required to make concentrated oil, would be very prohibitive.

Good luck Sara.
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I don’t smoke either because I find it too harsh on my throat and lungs. I’ve vaped the flowers which is more gentle. Just recently the dispensaries have come out with the most amazing oil cartridges that fit into an e-cig type cartridge. There’s no need to heat them up—-just pick it up and vape. There’s NO odor and so gentle and no mess of disposing the flowers. I mostly use the CBD and then Indica at night. I also am a huge fan of edibles.

If I’m correct, Bailey told me that edibles won’t be available at Shoppers now, but if insurance covers the flowers there are some great books available that explain how to make edibles and prior to our dispensaries offering so many options so I don’t have to spend so much money on flowers, I made great canna butter and chocolates that really weren’t difficult.
Oh, and tinctures and topicals also.
As far as disposal goes, if you are concerned there’s always the option of mixing them in with old coffee grinds and putting them in the garbage.

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yes Stevie I have tried 2 vape machines and still sore throat so I will wait to get the oil. 
Bailey I made some tea tonight just using a couple of unground leafs so I won't overdose lol mostly CBD don't know if it does anything but it won't go to waste. I don't know how to mix in coconut I think it would be itchy lol. alright see you.
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Hi Sara,

The strain of cannabis, and how it was grown and processed, also has a major effect on how harsh it is. I’m not suggesting you keep trying to vape, but if the product has been badly grown or cured, it won’t matter what vape you use it will still be harsh.

Do you use milk in your tea? The oil in cannabis needs a fat to bind to. If you simmer a little Cannabis in milk, then add that to your tea, you’ll extract many more beneficial compounds.

I imagine just mixing the dried cannabis in coconut oil would be kinda itchy :) But if you add a little cannabis to some melted coconut oil, very gently simmer or heat over a double boiler, and then strain out the cannabis, you’re left with an infused product you can apply topically.
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Yes I had the tea but got a little heartburn after. The cannabis is good quality well recommended by cannabis clinic it's in Niagara. but maybe try the simmer in milk next time. I even bought one vaporizer there. my throat is just very sensitive to vaping they say maybe machine too hot temp but I tried  it at recommended temp and still throat sore next day. well guess I'll wait for the oil or edibles from Shoppers in the fall. I got a letter that marijuana is legal for everyone over 18 Oct. 17.

 ok off to shoulder exercises. the PT did some release and that was sore but guess it needs to be done. see ya
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