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Long-term Radio Frequency Rhizotomy

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    Posted: Apr/02/2017 at 8:04pm
     I underwent my usual R.F. rhizotomy (Nerve ablation using microwaves to burn pain-conducting nerves) at four levels; T-6 - T-10. I've been having this procedure done for the last sixteen years every six to eight months. The burned nerves take about that much time (6 - 8 mos.) to reconnect. Previously, I would get around sixty to seventy percent remediation of pain. Lately, I'm getting less and less with the last one no more than twenty-five percent.
     Does anyone know of any long-term studies done on this type of procedure? I've been wondering if there's a possibility that, over the years, I may have developed some scar tissue which the nerves reconnect around. If the doctor performing the procedure goes into the same area repeatedly, and it feels that way, is it possible that the conducting nerves have re-routed over time?
     I have searched for days in medical reports on r.f. rhizotomy/nerve ablation and can find nothing pertinent relating to my question other than long-term radiation exposure from the fluoroscope on which I lay.  Booger54
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Hi Booger,

I honestly can't remember anyone over the past many years we've been doing this site having had this procedure done for the number of years that you have and none of the medical research that comes past me has said anything that I can recall regarding loss of effectiveness.

Having said that, your theory makes perfect sense. Every time surgery is done on the same area, adhesions and scar tissue form. While your procedure isn't as invasive as major surgery, it is still invasive and quite frankly I'm amazed that you have responded so well for so long. Nerves can definitely reroute---but i'd for sure talk to your Dr about this. I'm very interested to find out what his/her explanation is.

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Thank you Stevie. I will be having a post-procedure follow-up within the next few weeks. Unfortunately, those are usually with a P.A. who may not have an answer. I'll see if I can get to speak with the doctor himself.
I know that Stanford University has a superb pain management division and they do a good deal of research. It may prove fruitful to present it to one of the doctors there.
As I've stated, I can't seem to find anything relating to the long term results of this on the internet so far.  
 
 
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You are exactly right.  Use scholar.google.com and search for aberrant regeneration following facet rhizotomy.
Ankylosing spondylitis & osteoporosis -> compression fractures -> facet & ligamentum flavum hypertrophy-> stenosis -> spinal cord & nerve root compression -> cervical myelopathy & radiculopathy -> bruise & deformation of my spinal cord -> incomplete spinal cord injury -> postlaminectomy syndrome of cervical region. Cervical laminectomy & fusion decompressed my cord but I now have severe chronic pain. Pain meds = Oxycontin, Percocet, Lyrica, Soma, Cymbalta, Voltaren Gel, & Ketamine pain cream. 11 surgeries including 5 orthopedic & 1 neurosurgery.

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Thank you Jeff! I can see I'll be spending a lot of time researching there.
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I've had relief from my last lumbar sacral RFA done on both sides for the first time, even my leg sciatica not as bad, Although I haven''t  been as active because of my recent surgery I'm amazed at the relief I got this time. Before the Dr. was doing only one side each time. so total 5 times. I often wondered how often the nerve grows back.
I've even heard that some people get it done a few times and the pain goes completely! Wouldn't that be nice?

I'm going to check out that link. Thanks Jeff and great question Booger! Saa
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