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    Posted: Sep/19/2017 at 12:21am
I am one of those that shudders at hearing Marijuana mentioned.
But, lately, I have been wondering if there is some kind of ointment, marijuana derived, that can be used to lower joint or muscle pain, or even nerve pain. Something that you can rub on like the oils I use. Also wanted to know that if is Marijuana based, would I derive some kind of an addiction to it?

I am not sure this kind of stuff would be allowed here in Wisc, but that is something I would check on later..

Thanks...
Chronic pain throughout the spine caused by osteoarthritis (DDD). Started at neck, spread to thoracic, and lately to lumbar area. Most of my spine is affected by bulges, disc height loss and dehydration, bone spurs, annular tears, foraminal stenosis, probable nerve impingement, and degeneration at end plates and facets.

The disease extends from Cervical C2-3 to C7-T1. Thoracic T4 to T10.
Lumbar T12-L1 to L5-S1.
It is all non operable.

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TKR R Knee.
Torn ACL, MCL L knee,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bailey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/19/2017 at 6:17am
Hi Edie,

Using cannabis topicals has made a huge improvement in my QOL. Cannabis is legal in Canada with a doctor's prescription and will be legal for everyone over 19 next year. It's been used medically for much of our history and our body's endocannabanoid system works to keep everything in homeostasis.

I have the ability to make my own medicines from my home grown, organic plants. This has allowed me to get rid of almost all my pharmaceuticals, including 90mg Oxy CR and 45mg Oxy IR daily. Using a cream or lotion infused with cannabis gives me a couple hours of significant relief. Using cannabis topically will not cause any side effects and will not cause addiction. Cannabis is not addictive.

The history of why cannabis was made illegal in the US is pretty interesting. That's when it also became known as marihuana. It makes for a good read.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/19/2017 at 8:36am
There is a CBD ointment that is excellent and absolutely non psychoactive and no side effects at all. As Bailey said, Cannabis is not addictive----there has never been an overdose due to it and you can take it or leave it   

Unfortunately I don't see your State listed on my map of legal States. But I haven't updated it lately. I'm hoping that all States will pass legislation as options for narcotics are becoming so ridiculous.

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Edie,
Look up CW gel pen on your computer. I use the oil and the capsules and both work great. These products are legal in all 50 states so you are not breaking the law.
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Five knee surgeries from 1970 to 2000. Knee replacement in 2000.Spinal stenosis surgery in May of 2002. Diagnosed with Pseudogout in 2005, effecting hands, knees, and shoulders. Emergency surgery in March of 2006 for spinal infection of L 2 and L 3. During surgery, discovered I had Cauda Equina Syndrome. Spine became unstable after surgery and had 360 fusion with 10 pedicle screws, plates and rods in April of 2007. Retired early as a high school principal. Recently, have had trigger finger surgery on both hands as well as surgery for severe bi-lateral Carpal Tunnel disease.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Edie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/19/2017 at 10:50pm
Thank all for your information. Dick I will look into the site you mentinoned. I live in WI, but I am in the border with MN. All my medical clinics and doctors are in the MN side, and it may be possible that I can get something that way.

Would it be OK to use the topical oil or gel, or the capsules along with the medicine I take? I use Morphine 45 tid along with a little bit of Klonopin for anxiety, plus a sleeping aid at night. I also use Celebrex daily that makes a big difference for the inflammation that goes along with my arthritis.

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Chronic pain throughout the spine caused by osteoarthritis (DDD). Started at neck, spread to thoracic, and lately to lumbar area. Most of my spine is affected by bulges, disc height loss and dehydration, bone spurs, annular tears, foraminal stenosis, probable nerve impingement, and degeneration at end plates and facets.

The disease extends from Cervical C2-3 to C7-T1. Thoracic T4 to T10.
Lumbar T12-L1 to L5-S1.
It is all non operable.

Other conditions
TKR R Knee.
Torn ACL, MCL L knee,
Pain on legs and calves
Deep vein thrombosis
Migraine headaches
Painful spots all over scalp
COPD
Hypertension
Chronic Hyperventilation. Caused by anxiety or stress
Chronic depression and insomnia
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/20/2017 at 9:39am
Edie---

It's imperative to have a Dr trained in marijuana look over your medical records and medications and help you with what is safe to take along with your MS In AZ you can't get your license without the form being filled out and signed by a Dr who is trained in cannibus and it is sent to the State in order to receive your license. My personal Dr couldnt do this.

As far as using a topical there won't be an interaction with your meds. But I wouldn't take anything by mouth without knowing exactly what it is and where it came from. Local dispensaries are the way to go. The people who work there are knowledgeable and help a lot. I found that this is no different than getting used to any medication and that starting out slowly is the way to go   

I'm not sure how you can get your license from another State unless you have a mailing address from MN. State laws are really strict but it's worth a try!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Edie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2017 at 10:53pm
I didn't think about the license. I was thinking, it would be possible to get something topical without problem. I doubt I will be able to get a license, and I would not dare to sneak stuff without one.  Thanks for reminding me of it. Thanks Stevie...

The pen that Dick mentioned, sounds like a possibility, but it is hard to know what sites you can trust.

Chronic pain throughout the spine caused by osteoarthritis (DDD). Started at neck, spread to thoracic, and lately to lumbar area. Most of my spine is affected by bulges, disc height loss and dehydration, bone spurs, annular tears, foraminal stenosis, probable nerve impingement, and degeneration at end plates and facets.

The disease extends from Cervical C2-3 to C7-T1. Thoracic T4 to T10.
Lumbar T12-L1 to L5-S1.
It is all non operable.

Other conditions
TKR R Knee.
Torn ACL, MCL L knee,
Pain on legs and calves
Deep vein thrombosis
Migraine headaches
Painful spots all over scalp
COPD
Hypertension
Chronic Hyperventilation. Caused by anxiety or stress
Chronic depression and insomnia
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I honestly wouldn't order anything online unless I knew exactly where the product was made and ingredients pure. Perhaps PM Dick to find out more about this as he seems very pleased with the results?

And a license is required to obtain a CBD topical ointment---at least in my Statev

Please donate to help Chronicpainsite.com continue to help others.

My journey with chronic pain began over 30 years ago, while as a young nurse working spinal rehab, I injured my back lifting a patient. I am now fused from L2-S1. I have multiple thoracic and cervical issues. I'm a retired RN/PA and I know and understand the frustrations on both ends of the treatment spectrum of dealing with CP. It's been my goal since 2008, when we started this site, to reach out and help as many people in pain as possible. We will continue the fight as long as we can. Please, if you can help us continue to help you and others, donate. Thank you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Booger54 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/29/2017 at 2:39pm
Hi Stevie, Edie, and All. I've been looking at and trying some CBD "supplements" , as they are known here in Cal. I have found the F.D.A. site to be of great help in assessing which one to buy and which not:

 
I have tried oral CBD oil and it was a bit helpful. The expense is a budget killer though. I also bought the highest rated CBD topical, Pain Bomb (a play on "balm"), and found it gave a bit better relief, but I also found that I had a reaction to one of the other ingredients in it. Nothing serious, just itchy skin, but it took me a few days to realize it was the balm and not something else.
I hope the above link helps all interested...Tim
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Thank you Tim!!

Right now we have 29 States that we can get our MMJ license and I would tell anyone reading this to get it. The dispensary has a wealth of information to help anyone with CP. MMJ is not cheap. If you can’t grow your own plants you can’t afford to spend money on anything you don’t need.

But, with the way things are going with honest and truly needy people who suffer with CP, marijuana can and does help. We need to fight for our rights to a drug that has NEVER caused an overdose death.

Please donate to help Chronicpainsite.com continue to help others.

My journey with chronic pain began over 30 years ago, while as a young nurse working spinal rehab, I injured my back lifting a patient. I am now fused from L2-S1. I have multiple thoracic and cervical issues. I'm a retired RN/PA and I know and understand the frustrations on both ends of the treatment spectrum of dealing with CP. It's been my goal since 2008, when we started this site, to reach out and help as many people in pain as possible. We will continue the fight as long as we can. Please, if you can help us continue to help you and others, donate. Thank you.
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