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    Posted: Feb/22/2018 at 8:04pm
Sorry for all the posts, I'm just really frustrated about the situation I'm in.
It's hard to stay positive when your in constant pain.
Anyways, if I can get some feedback from someone with a bulging disk. I have trouble straightening my right leg, does that sound like a problem with my sciatic nerve?
My doctor says the bulge is putting pressure on the nerve. It just feels like a muscle to me but I'm not a doctor.
It gets better as the day goes on or if I'm doing something physical.
Does anyone else have this problem?
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Psoas muscle. I'm not diagnosing this as your problem, just throwing this out there for discussion. You can read my signature below to see what I have gone through so I won't repeat myself. For the last two years, I have been working with an orthopedic massage therapist and he is 100% convinced that my standing, being bent forward, and weakness and pain in my right leg are all as a result of my Psoas muscle being too tight. I'd spend some time reading about it. 
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Do you have the results of your MRI? If so, please post the “Impression “ or “Conclusion “ part. I’d like to know exactly what level or levels are being affected. I could give you much better responses if I could know more.

Disc bulges aren’t uncommon and small bulges can resolve on their own in due course in some cases. Large bulges are most likely going to need surgery for any type of long term relief of sciatica. And as Dick mentioned, there could be other factors that are causing your pain. So please let us know what your MRI says?

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It does sound like to me that your doctor is right on target, so I'd keep going.
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Conclusion: large disc protrusion at l4 l5 with severe compression of the traversing right l5 nerve. There is a mild compression of the traversing left l5 nerve.
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I think my doctor is right also, I'm just getting really frustrated. I'm in so much pain first thing in the morning. It usually takes a couple hours of moving around to feel a little better. I was almost in tears this morning because of the pain.
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A severe compression such as yours is most likely not going to resolve on its own. I’d ask about a minimally invasive procedure if possible. If you’ve lost so much space between L4-L5, you may require a fusion. But one level fusions do well in the hands of a good back surgeon if steroid injections and/or physical therapy don’t work.

Remember one thing. Prolonged compression on the nerve roots can cause permanent nerve damage and you don’t want that. We’ve had way too many members who were forced to wait too long for surgery and never recover from nerve pain.

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That is what I'm worried aboUT. The thing is though, my pain diminishes as the day goes on. Mornings are the worst time of day for me
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Quick question for you guys. If I had nerve pain in my leg would it go away or get better as the day goes on or would nerve pain be a constant thing.
When I wake up its bad but in a couple hours it gets much better. I'm kind of thinking I have a muscle problem. My doctor says it's the nerve and my chiro and physio and massage say it's muscle.
I'm going with what my doc says but I would have thought a nerve pain would be a constant thing?
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No, I have nerve pain and it is anything but constant. Mine comes and goes like the wind, no rhyme or reason. I echo Stevie's statement about waiting to long. That happened to me because local docs were afraid of my messed up spine and kept passing me along, until I got to a major medical research school and on the first visit they said I needed surgery.  Now, I have permanent nerve damage, lost my job, and am applying for disability.  Spinal nerves don't regenerate like other nerve cells so once the damage is done, there is nothing anyone can do.
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I will mention that to my doctor
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Agree with Jeff about the variation in nerve pain and when it comes and goes. My first surgery was at L5-S1. I had horrendous pain first thing in the morning (like someone sticking a hot poker in my buttock) that resolved as the day wore on—-at first. It confused everyone until the scan clearly showed a large herniation.

At other times and other locations on my lumbar spine the pain varied according to the level. But bottom line is that once the nerve is compressed for a long enough period of time surgery is honestly useless. We’ve seen it time and again from members over the years who were forced to wait for surgery due to long waiting times from their respective health care systems.

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It's not the health care system, it's my doctor. Apparently they won't touch me until I'm almost crippled.
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Originally posted by Mopar1 Mopar1 wrote:

It's not the health care system, it's my doctor. Apparently they won't touch me until I'm almost crippled.


I know quite a bit about your health care system. What you are facing is unfortunately typical and your Dr is following the pattern of too many of our members. Fight for your right to be seen by someone else who will listen to you. I’m sorry that you are going through this.

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Sounds like you need a new doctor. Read my signature. If the bulge has not gone away with meds and R&R. No need to think the pain will either. Have you tried a inversion table it relieved my pain until I got off of it. it lets you know where you are. I would start with a doctor that is straight up with you.

2/13/08 two lvl fusion L-4 to S-1 w/Axilif and all the hardware to prove it.I now have severe chronic pain.
Down and out 16 weeks.But with the help of my spiney friends I am moving on with life. Left and right rotator cuff 2012 torn meniscus 2013
Another tear same knee, Now torn meniscus both knees 11/2013 As of 11/10 17 C3-C4 C6-C7 Posterior disc osteophyte complex with moderate central spinal stenosis and impingement on the anterior cervical spinal cord. there are uncovertebral changes and facet joint arthropathy with bilateral neural formina narrowning and mass effect on exiting right and left C4 and C7 nerve root
T12-L1right para-central disc protrusion abuts the the-cal sac
L1-l2 disc bulge abuts the the-cal sac. mild facet
L2-L3 spinal canal stenosis secondary to disc bulge and bilateral facet hypertrophy
L3-L4disc protrusion spinal canal stenosis disc spacers partially extend into the right extra-formation region and abuts the right L4 nerve root in the extra-formation region
L5- S1Disc bulge abuts the thecal sac bilateral facet hypertrophy The L5 nerve root exits with mild impingement.
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Hi Mopar,
Sorry about all the distress and pain you have been suffering. I read your posts on this thread, and haven't seen anywhere if you have seen a Neuro Surgeon. Usually, after your doctor orders an MRI, he will look at the results, and then send you to a specialist, usually a neuro or ortho surgeon depending the MRI results. This doctor will read your MRI and do an evaluation. This individual is the one who will give you a diagnosis, and decides what would be the best treatment to follow.

If you haven't seen anyone like that, I would suggest to ask your doctor about a referral before making any decisions.  This would be the thing that could take away all your doubts you have of whether it is muscle or nerve. IMO, by the symptoms you present, this seems to be most definitely a nerve problem (I am not a doctor, but I've have acquired lots of experience both personally as a sufferer, and also as retired Surgical Technologist)...edie
Chronic pain throughout the spine caused by osteoarthritis (DDD). Started at neck, spread to thoracic, and lately to lumbar area. Most of my spine is affected by bulges, disc height loss and dehydration, bone spurs, annular tears, foraminal stenosis, probable nerve impingement, and degeneration at end plates and facets.

The disease extends from Cervical C2-3 to C7-T1. Thoracic T4 to T10.
Lumbar T12-L1 to L5-S1.
It is all non operable.

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This is what a compressed spinal cord looks like.  The bulging disc from the front side and the bulging ligamentum flavum from the back side are compressing the spinal cord.  Our cords have blood veins and arteries that flow on the outside of the cord.  Compression of the cord then compresses these blood veins, often to the point that the cells below it don't get enough blood flow and start to die.  If you leave this like this for long, you'll be paralyzed, not just in chronic pain, and despite being paralyzed, you won't be rid of the chronic pain, because your brain will be sending crazy signals to your brain due to damaged sensor neurons in the spinal cord, which is exactly what happened to me.  Mine was in my neck, so my arms are hyporeflexive and I've lost strength to biceps and deltoids, and I get all forms of pain including feeling like I've stuck my thumb in a a light socket, feeling like my thumb is on fire, feeling like my arm got dipped into ice water, feeling like I'm being stabbed in the wrist, and even produces physical knots in my arms that you can easily feel where it should be soft, the muscle is hard as a rock, due to malfunctioning motor neurons telling those muscles to constantly contract.  It turns into a ball of muscle that screams in pain as the muscle reach exhaustion.  My arms literally hurt 24/7.

I am not trying to scare you, I am trying to motivate you to fight for your life, so you don't end up like me in a wheelchair and in chronic pain for the rest of your life that no surgery can remedy because its too late.  Once the neurons are damaged, they cannot be repaired.  MDs are experimenting with stem cell implants to eventually replace neurons, but the problem is (1) how to connect those neurons back into your nervous system and (2) sometimes those stem cells turn into teeth and hair rather than neurons, which can be worse than doing nothing.  So, if you keep waiting on the system to help you and don't advocate for yourself, you are at risk of damage to your spinal cord and the problems I've outlined.  Take it for someone who knows, push, push, push the system and fight, fight, fight for your health.  Even in the US, healthcare companies slow you down, and in national health systems, government slows doctors down, so unless you are lucky enough to get a fighter, you have to become that fighter.  I had to see 6 neurosurgeons to find 2 that wanted to do immediate surgery.  4 of them including one at a top 10 medical school told me to keep waiting.  It was too late by the time I had surgery.
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