QuoteReplyTopic: Dealing with the bitterness... Posted: May/17/2010 at 8:46am
Hi Mian!
Thank you for the hug! I'm glad I made you smile at the mention of our fun little creatures! I truly do think the love of a pet is so important, and you talk with so much love about your rats. I don't think until someone's owned a rat that they're thought of as being as fun as they can be, but they really do have distinct personalities as you know! I had one that used to rush over when I was a teen eating potato chips (he'd especially steal them from my Mom since she was the big potato chip lover) then hop like a bunny with the chip in his mouth around the room. Of course, he probably had way more chips and crackers just because the way he acted with them was so darned funny! When he was tired, he'd go to the bedroom with his cage and wait to be put back in it so he could go to sleep. Heck, I may be talking myself into getting a new rat, it's been quite a while and I really want a pet!
I think it's important right now for you to recognize that you're going through a very tough time, and while it doesn't mean it's permanent, it's frustrating and depressing and you have every reason to feel as upset as you are. I think those who don't have chronic pain don't get just what a blow it is to have to stop doing something we want so bad. When I had to stop working, I was down to 2 hours a day and would come home and lay on the floor shaking from the pain of those two hours. When my doctor said I needed to stay home for a longer time not working at all and I was told "no problem, we need someone who can work longer hours any way", I felt like my last bit of being part of "life" was taken away from me. I didn't love the job and it wasn't something I wanted to do permanently, but not being able to do it is a WHOLE different story than deciding not to do it. That's when I really felt like I was outside looking in, like in movies when they show poor children or unhappy children looking through the window at families celebrating holidays together, and so on. Do NOT think you're whining, I think you're going through a lot and struggling to adjust to very hard changes. I wish with all my heart that you weren't going through this.
That YOU for sharing with me and the rest of us! I think you're more supportive of others than you think. Please know while you may be isolated physically, you do have your CPS family here for you, k? I know it's not the same, but hopefully until things straighten out and you can return to school, you can always come here and get support and even just share what you're up to if you'd like. Don't forget the Townhall thread either under The Living Room, where you can post with the rest of the gang about what you're up to each day. I think it helps to feel a part of things, and since it's NOT about pain, it will help you feel less like all you are is someone with chronic pain. You may have chronic pain, but you also have so much more than that! Please try real hard to identify yourself as someone who is more than what they can do. That was real hard for me too at 24 to no longer be able to pursue the career I wanted or work, plus my ex-boyfriend broke up with me over how much pain I was in and how much things had changed. I think one important thing is to stop and think of all the strong points about WHO you are. You're obviously a very strong person to fight to go to school all this time, and just because you aren't now, doesn't mean you're down for good. You're empathetic to others with pain, no doubt! That's such a wonderful trait as so many others, even sometimes those with pain, see people with pain as weak or just don't understand, whereas you come across very caring about others. You're also very loving, anyone who loves animals, especially poor rats who get an undeserved bad rap, is special in my book! Those who love animals also seem to be good people. You know how they say if animals like a person, that person is most likely a good person as animals (and babies) can see through them? I seriously think there's something to that!
Take good care and I look forward to talking with you soon! Kat
1991 Disc Excision L5-S1 for herniated disc.
1996 During routine laparoscopy for endometriosis, had multiple pelvic and bladder nerves burned, resulting in neuralgia and dysfunction of nerves & organs in left pelvis, leg, groin, etc.. Have tried many treatments with varying success.
4/28&30/08 ALIF & PLIF L4-S1 for congenital stenosis, re-herniation,disk tears.
4/27/2009 Hardware removal surgery
Your message was so generous, it made me cry (in a good way). It's been a long time since anyone has said anything even near that understanding and kind, and I can't thank you enough. You are an amazing person, through everything you've been through also, to find the time and speak so kindly to others, I can tell you one thing: you've definitely impacted my life, and for that I am grateful. I know it sounds cheesy, but there are those moments, especially when you were describing work and your ex (mine did the same thing....) it's so hard to feel so identified by others by the illness that we deal with, but when you said what you did, it made it feel like you know, no, that's their problem, not mine, and that there are people who understand. But I do have a question, because this is coming up a lot right now, what do you say to those whose first words are: well, why don't you just get a job (instead of moving home)? I don't know how to answer that because the first thing I want to do, is just...walk away, ya know? Thank you so much. I will also definitely check out the Town hall thread, also. I think getting into that would be quite fun :) Take care -Sam.
But I do have a question, because this is coming up a lot right now, what do you say to those whose first words are: well, why don't you just get a job (instead of moving home)? I don't know how to answer that because the first thing I want to do, is just...walk away, ya know?
Take care -Sam.
Sam, this would be a great one to put in this thread that just started:
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
Stevie, I never saw the 10 Things TO say, that's wonderful! Definitely check that out, Sam! I'm so glad you're planning to start posting in Townhall. For me, that truly helped me get to know the other members and from there, I was hooked on CPS! Also in the exercise and nutrition forum there's a thread called "What have you done physically today". It can be as little as taking a small walk or standing long enough to make dinner, and it's fun to post it as it truly feels like an accomplishment, which it is! I also started a gardening thread there, so if you like to garden at all, please join in! Now that I think of it, I'm surprised we don't have a pet area, since pets are so wonderful at brightening our lives. Perhaps you should start a pet thread?! I know many members would join in, and I'd be more than happy to talk about the hermit crab of my brother's that I've been babysitting for an entire year now! Sometimes the antics of pets posted on Townhall have me thinking back to them and laughing throughout the day!
Honestly, I really despise those questions, like why am I not married/working/have children. Or better yet, what's wrong with me that I don't have those things. It's none of their business in the first place, but I know it's common questions in making conversation. I usually just say the truth, that I was badly injured and am unable to work. It's tough, because I would imagine it's uncomfortable for the person asking as well as us when we respond. You can always say I'm physically unable to at the time, and leave it at that. Then ask them a question to get the subject off of them questioning further what happened to you, plus since many people don't expect younger people to have injuries or disabilities that prevent them from doing things, so it often throws them for a loop as well.
One thing I've noticed is especially in my late teens after I injured my back and then worse in my 20's with the pelvic injuries I was only able to go to classes, then rest. The day I even had classes was absolutely exhausting, despite having a second chair in the classroom to put my legs up on to decrease my pain from sitting. I think our peers really don't get it most of the time, since not too many people at that age are as limited or can understand what we're going through. I really started bonding with friend's parents when it came to back problems! With that in mind, I strongly suggest you throw age limits on friends (not that I think you would have them) out the window, as there are people of all ages who will and won't understand, and those that do or are willing to listen to understand are the ones worth having in our lives.
Sam, thank you so much for your kind words to me, it means a lot to me. I'm very happy you decided to join CPS, and that you've been strong enough to share what you're going through with everyone. Chronic pain can take so much from and out of us, and it's not always easy to see the good things in our lives. It's so important to find support and allow ourselves to do things we enjoy and find new things we enjoy doing that we can without spending time beating ourselves up, that's the last thing we need!
Talk to you soon, take good care! Kat
1991 Disc Excision L5-S1 for herniated disc.
1996 During routine laparoscopy for endometriosis, had multiple pelvic and bladder nerves burned, resulting in neuralgia and dysfunction of nerves & organs in left pelvis, leg, groin, etc.. Have tried many treatments with varying success.
4/28&30/08 ALIF & PLIF L4-S1 for congenital stenosis, re-herniation,disk tears.
4/27/2009 Hardware removal surgery
Hi: I haven't been really active on this site because I do isolate myself. I'm very good at it and I know it's taking a toll. Whatever you do please continue to live your life and don't give up. I've lost a very promising career and a son who thinks I'm lazy because I just sit in the house. I had a lunch appointment with a very old great friend and I canceled because I just hurt too much. Now I am sitting here by myself as I do every day and wonder why I did that.
Don't lose your spark. I never thought I would but I have and I don't know how to get it back.
fondly, November
Back fusion of L4-L5, SI joint damaged, Sciatica in left leg. Herniated discs in neck. Arthritis in lower back and hips. Spinal Stenosis, spondylolisthesis.
I was wondering how things are going for you? Have you moved, and how are you doing physically?
It has been awhile since we have heard from you, and I hope that you are doing as well as can be expected.
Hugs, Stevie
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
Hi November, Sorry to hear but I've cancelled meetings with friends from out of town and one before she left town. Maybe one day the pain will be less and you can plan again. For me I'm spur of the moment if someone can meet me on my good days better yet. I have a hard time pre-panning from one day to the next, well anyone really with chronic pain may have a hard time adjusting. Let's hope for tomorrow. I'm glad to have so much to do in the home like watch tv and go online and walk when I can. Take care and one day at a time and be gentle with yourself. hug if you like. Sara
Mild DDD throughout lumbar spine disabling unable to work. Facet joint arthropy lumbar spine. Cervical C6-7 nerve impinging. Healed L5-S1 herniated disc and tear recently. Off work for 2yrs 6 months since back injury.Treatments - Oxycontin 40-2-3x day,lyrica,cymbalta,voltaran,flexeril.PT,aqua therapy, acupuncture, TENs, infrared platinum heating pad. Last epi,fji's,SI and hip injections next set ESI and fji's and nerve blocks #5 Sept. 2/2010
Hey, yea, it has been a little while. Things have been unfortunately, not so swell. The pain is insanely bad, and it's standing in the way of me accomplishing anything this summer. I have moved, which in itself has its own conflict and stresses that make it hard, since my parent's aren't used to dealing with someone in Chronic pain...all the time. So there are some serious boundary issues still being established. I can't seem to hide my distress anymore as well as I used to, and it's really affecting my friendships...all two of them... I fear that they have stuck it through this long with me, but this is a whole other side of the pain, and I don't know if it's something their going to want to be around much. I can't just shrug it off and be sarcastic, some days it gets so bad, I just stop....I can't really explain, but that's all I can do. And if something else negative is to happen during that specific intense flare....ugh, my temper is just outta there- and I hate it, I can't blame others for not wanting to have to see it. I am working part time (I have...no money...at all) 8 hour days though, and it's pathetic...I can't handle that! I mean, I sit there, in an office, doing invoicing and filing, and preparing mail to go out, and billings... that's my day...and the pain is still too much. Mainly because of the lack of sleep (I have to be up by 5:45 to be ready), but it shouldn't mean by the end of the day, I am in a ball ...bawling. I have had moments I stay in the bathroom crying trying to control the pain any way I could- including double dosing now. My doctor won't help (no surprise), nothing I have does anything. I don't want more pills, I want appropriate ones, and I want to be able to try every aspect of pain management, but I can't get him to move on anything. Thankfully, I got the forms online, and brought them in filled out, and I am in to a pain clinic on Aug the 3 for a consult. Something has to happen though. He wants a Urine test (if he finds out I am still on NSAIDs and taking Ty1's in a larger quantity (not dangerous, but carefully), and double dosing occassionally....I am so so screwed, and this is the first year I have ever done this, in eleven years of having Chronic Pain, but I wouldn't be out the door, other wise. There are days I still don't leave bed. I don't know what to do, and I feel like I am losing everything. The more I try and hold on, the more I slip.. Heh, I haven't been on the computer in general much due to that. I haven't been doing much at all, beyond my attempts at work, and my attempts at holding my life together with other obligations I have. I hope you have been well. Sorry I went into such a long rant, I was going to just kinda say the just of it, but...apparently I spilled it all. Are you keeping up well? I hope your pain levels have been keeping low. Thanks for listening
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
I think that you are being really hard on yourself, honey. You have been through an awful lot between moving, trying to establish a relationship with your parents, working, all while not being treated appropriately for your pain.
Aug 3 is almost here, and I truly hope that, as you said, you won't get more pills, you'll get appropriate ones. You should be treated so that you do NOT have to supplement with so many NSAID's and Tyl 1's which are hard on your stomach and liver.
Do you know if this pain clinic provides counseling for dealing with chronic pain also? Some of our members have had very good success with that.
Please try to be as optimistic as you can that this appointment will be a good one and that once your pain is managed better, you will not feel as despondent as you do now.
We all know what it is like to not be able to get out of bed some days, to not be able to go out, to feel angry and isolated.
I am very glad that you wrote all of this out and you know that you can come here and vent anytime. We are here to listen and we do hear you loud and clear.
Please do let us know how your appointment goes, OK? Hugs, Stevie
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
Thank you. I appreciate what you said. I recently picked up art, again. Something I can do while I am either ill, or if I am well. A friend I met through a ...rat... forum, actually, asked me to do a portrait of two of her dogs and in return she was going to make a couple little things for my little ones. She has Chronic Pain, also, it turned out which is what lead us to talking off the site. That's been kind of a boost. I will definitely let you know how the apt goes. I am hoping that they offer counseling. I had a wonderful Psychologist who treated Chronic Pain patients specifically for about a year, but when I moved back South East to the middle of nowhere...and lost my insurance (she was a bit pricey), she moved to Ottawa... So, I have to find somewhere I can both afford, and where I will be able to get the same help I had with her-She was the first out of 8 to be able to help me. I am heading off to a place called Mount Sinai. They apparently have a wonderful center to help patients deal with the medication and getting off of it appropriately, as well. So, I am hopeful. Right now, it just seems so so far away. The oven is beeping, so I should go tend to it. But thank you. I really appreciate everything you and others on this site have done for me, been there for me. I thank you, very much indeed. I hope that you are well. <hugs> :)
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
It is our pleasure to be here for you and our members, and I want to tell you how much your kind words mean.
Many hugs, Stevie
PS---I am so happy to hear that you have gone back to your art work. Someday when you have time, would you post some pictures of what you have done in our Photo Section?
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
It's great to hear from you again, although I'm really sad to hear that you are still suffering so much. I agree with Stevie, I think you are being really hard on yourself. Just look at how far you have come over the last few months! I know that you may only be working part-time, but the job you are doing involves sitting for long periods of time - I know that for me that would be one of the worst things I could do. So every credit to you for being so determined to try.
I hope your appointment goes well and that they can sort out your medication and help you get some more relief. Take care and keep us posted,
Spicey
37 yrs old, chronic pain since 1993
Decompression/stabilisation with Dynesys Apr'04, revision with PLIF Oct'08, several ESI's.
Still suffering with bilateral nerve pains in legs, plus in neck, arms & hands since Jul'09. SCS installed Apr'10. No significant improvement yet
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Sam, I am sorry to hear that you are still hurting so much, and that you are having to endure long hours at work.
I hope this pain clinic works out for you and they can get you on the right meds for you.
Take care, and try to find the best in every situation.
"Pick battles big enough to matter, small enough to win." - Jonathan Kozol
DDD, 3 bulging discs one cervical, one thoracic, one lumbar. Periphial neuropathy. Undiagnosed pain rt. side of face, ear &jaw. Will update when diagnosis is known.
I agree w Spicey that sitting for long hours causes alot more pain.
Let us know how your appointment goes. I'm saying a special prayer
for you. Take Care Sam.
Roni
1st injured Feb, 1997. Was told it was "Soft Tissue" and sent back to work - no X-rays
Late 1997 attended 1st “Rehab Program” to strengthen back. Mid ‘98 PCP took me off work. Tried going back to work over the next couple years, mostly off work due to pain.
June 2000, met with OS for first time. Did MRI , damage was L5-S1 totally blown out. Surgery done Jan, 2001.
Another Rehab program late 2001, attempted to go back to work early 2002. Slipped on water, fell flat on back – screw fusion broke.
Went to 3rd Rehab program summer 2002.
Oct 2003 – 2nd Surgery, due to broken screw, had to operate from the front.
No improvement. Attended 4th Rehab program in 2004, at time it was decided NO work.
March 2006, had 3rd Surgery, this time fusion and instrumentation from Si to L3.
June 2008 Surgeon finally admitted I had Failed Back Surgery.
August 2009 WCB Finally put me on Long Term Disability
Does anyone have problems coming to terms with things being taken from you, in life? When this happened to me, it wasn't an accident, or a mistake of life, it was done by a doctor who was cocky and young, and thought he was the shit, and decided to operate. He butchered me. When I was in University, my first relationship was with a man a couple years older than me, and he turned out to be forceful and abusive. He took the chance to have a "first time" from me. He raped me, and assaulted me. For over a year, I didn't leave my room. I was reclusive, and even had the floor manager of my dorm make a comment about thinking I had left since he never saw me. I stopped attending classes, I had my door permanently locked, and I wouldn't let anyone touch me, not even my best friend whom was always ready with a hug when we saw one another. He took a lot from me, including my confidence. This doctor butchered me. What he did to me, he violated me. He's stolen my freedom, and ability to hold stable relationships of any nature. In talking with a girlfriend of mine, she was gossiping about a new boy she'd been with. I met the person I thought was the love of my life, two years later, and with some therapy...a lot of it... was able to get close with him. However, any 'sex' was over shadowed with pain, and with ...well...no feeling at all. At first I thought it was because of what had happened years earlier, but the fact is, I can't feel. Everything that has happened has led to this empty shell. I can't work, I can't feel, I can't support myself, I can't hold stable relationships (friendships included), And what bothers me more than anything, is I will never have children... My body has been totally ripped apart, and the choice-- the most important concept to all of these issues is the choice to act on them-- has been stolen. My brother is gay, and has made a decision he will probably not have kids, since he's not in a secure situation, living wise. My parents are looking to me to carry the family name. I can't live up to that. I can't even help out paying for shit around the house. I watch us falling apart, and there's nothing I can do to stop it... Tell me this isn't something that is out of the ordinary?
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
I know you don't know me, as you haven't really been on since I joined a few months ago. But I read your thread, and I just wanted to write and try to encourage you. You sound so overwhelmed, and rightly so. I understand how you feel, and have been on much medication and had a lot of therapy to overcome what you are dealing with right now. I just want to encourage you to take things one step at a time, one minute at a time, because to look at it all at once is too overwhelming.
I'm so sorry for all you have been through, and for all you are going through now. I know we don't have all the answers, but feel free to come and rant here all you want. We understand, and don't mind at all.
I'm adding you to my prayer list, so know that someone is praying for you.
Hugs,
Lissa
Pseudotumor cerebri and chronic daily migraines, causing moderate to severe pain constantly for more than 9 years now. OCD, generalized anxiety disorder, depression, PTSD, and panic attacks which started in adolescence (except the PTSD) and are generally controlled by medication, but when under stress show up and cause more severe pain.
I am awfully sorry for what you have been through in your young life. Terrible things happen to good people, and while there is no way to undue what happened in the past, I believe that we do have a choice in where we go in the future. I am certainly not a therapist, and anything that I say to you is only what is in my heart and mind.
You have a tremendous amount of talent and your art is wonderful. You are bright and you have much to offer. You have a long life ahead of you and it is up to you to make the very most of it.
Don't let what was taken from you destroy your life. You let those individuals win, and that is wrong.
None of us knows what the future holds, but yes, you can and you need to "feel". I am concerned that you are depressed from what has happened, and wonder if you are still seeing a therapist, or are on antidepressants? I know that you suffer from PTSD----how much of what you are going through now is a result of that?
I am sure that others will be along with help and support, but I am sending you love and hugs, and hoping that you will do whatever it takes to pull through this. I know you can "feel" honey. Your art has such feeling and that comes from you. Stevie
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
You have been through so much more than many of us could imagine, but please don't think you are alone with the feelings of loss. So many of us here have had to give up work, hobbies, deal with broken relationships all as a result of pain. I know that every person has their own individual demons to wrestle with, but those feelings of bitterness and loss are common. For me personally, it's been a long road of trying to accept things how they are. Some days I can deal with it better than others; it's really not an easy thing to have to cope with and I feel so bad for you and everything you have been through. I agree with Stevie, your beautiful artwork shows that you are capable of "feeling". Perhaps using art as an outlet could be a good starting point for you? Maybe you could do some drawings for yourself rather than for other people?
I don't have any answers honey, but I sincerely hope things improve soon. Never give up hope that they will.
Sending big hugs,
Spicey
37 yrs old, chronic pain since 1993
Decompression/stabilisation with Dynesys Apr'04, revision with PLIF Oct'08, several ESI's.
Still suffering with bilateral nerve pains in legs, plus in neck, arms & hands since Jul'09. SCS installed Apr'10. No significant improvement yet
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For the most part the changes we have are imposed upon us and we have to be honest with ourselves in what we are achieving, even in these challenging circumstance not of our own making, we are trying our very best, simple things have been wrenched from our grasp and we have to adapt to having, doing and surviving with less.
We have to be kind to ourselves and acknowledge what effort all the simple things now take and accept some of the new us, knowing what we have lost is good so that it makes us fight even harder for what is left, bitterness is part on the improving process and we should mourn the mandated loss of the things we once treasured. Working in pain can be so hard, so in leading the way with how you do this gives hope for others wishing to return or continuing to work, a reasonable person may have stopped long ago and this is our life and we are doing the best we can, that needs to be acknowledged and supported.
You are achieving some wonderful things and using Art as a distraction, supporters encourage us and enable us to do some of the things we find most challenging based on what they have done and who helped them, you acknowledge that you own developing support network does help and the chance to find encouragement in what and how we are progressing. As Spicey said, it does sometime take others to view the progress we have made, that we ourselves sometimes fail to measure.
Historical loss should not taint our future progress; we only manage that loss more effectively and define it in a more compressed and distanced memory, although that imbalance of what we have all lost is greater over time, our emphasis in on the future and those achievements as yet undefined and expectant.
Bitterness needs a shelf-life and expiry date, you are progressing more than you think and we can see those achievements in all that you are doing.
You are very well spoken, and what you said hit me deeply. I was talking to my mother about whether I would need a ride into work on Friday and how after the day I had that day, I didn't think I could, and I kept looking to her to see disappointment, but she didn't show any. I began to notice that the person placing this guilt, and this disapproval is not those that care about me, it's myself. When you're young, you're constantly told to suck it up, and keep trying, and if you don't, you're not trying hard enough. I was in Grade 7 when this happened, and I faced a lot of that. Doctors, teachers, society, and peers. The thing is, while I have reached an age where that is no longer presesnt; it's all on me. I am the one mirroring that. Thank you again for your kind comments, and take care. Ps. I like the quotes
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
I don't think I will ever be able to write in the section of "success stories", on the forum. I had my apt with the pain clinic today. It went...well... a little worse that even my cynical mind could have dreamt up. I thought I was going to at the very least, be able to go there with a clean slate and ask them for help managing the medications/ new meds I am on but the doctor kept making sure I understood that any help is a long shot. I can't go on living like this. I can't work, I can't attend school, and now I am going on a heavy drug. I just...I don't see much hope going forward For once, the age issue, I see being an issue. I have already run through most of the medications, and they don't know what to do for me...at the age of 21! What the hell?! There has to be someone out there who can help!
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
I am truly sorry that you didn't get the answers you were hoping for, but remember---this was the first time you were there, so please give them and yourself a chance. Give your body time to adjust to the new medication--this may be the one that will allow you the chance to get back to work and school. And if not this one, who knows what will be out there next week or next month?
Sam, the "Success Stories" Forum is there for many reasons. There are many levels of "success"---and your artwork is proof of your ability to work and IS a huge success.
Also, remember this---right now you may hear that "they don't know what to do for me", but you are so young, and you have to believe that there WILL be something for you in the future. Research is being done all of the time, and yes it is slow and frustrating for those of us who are told that there is nothing that can be done. But we can never give up. Where there is life there is hope.
I understand your feelings of loss and your concern for the future. Please take things one day at a time, and as some of our members say when that is too much to do, take an hour at a time.
We are always here for you. You are a talented young woman with a lot to offer. Don't give up honey. Hugs, Stevie
Spinal Fusions L5-S1 and L4-L5. Cervical DDD, stenosis, spondylosis, spondylolisthesis and facet arthropathy throughout cervical spine from C3-C7. Tiny cervical syrinx. Thoracic Spine: dextroconvex curvature of the thoracic spine, centered at approximately T8.(Scoliosis with 20 degree curve). At T7-8, a disc bulge. Hemangiomatas from T7-T10. Degenerative disc disease T7-T9. Disc dessication from T3-T11.
Sweetheart, I second everything that Stevie has said. You have been through so much and at such a young age and it's just not fair. But we can never know what is around the corner. When things get too much for me I just stop thinking ahead and take it in tiny chunks. Sometimes I can't even bare to think past the next couple of hours, let alone the rest of my life. But I try to focus on my crafts and card making, and more recently jewellery making and it serves as a great distraction. Yes, doing these things increases my pain, but it also gives me a sense of achievement and that is so important for our mental health. I've seen your work and you have an amazing talent - nothing can take that away from you.
I wish I had the words to help you better. All I can do is send you a very big virtual hug Never give up hope,
Spicey
37 yrs old, chronic pain since 1993
Decompression/stabilisation with Dynesys Apr'04, revision with PLIF Oct'08, several ESI's.
Still suffering with bilateral nerve pains in legs, plus in neck, arms & hands since Jul'09. SCS installed Apr'10. No significant improvement yet
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I have been reading your struggle with bitterness about your losses and your pain and I really feel deeply for you - and understand a great deal of what you are telling us - but not all
I just wrote something to someone else - our tribulations can make us tough but they should never make us hard
I have done more thinking even in that short space of time - without the issues that curse our lives - and the losses in our past can contaminate our future unless we can somehow come to terms with some of them - it depends on each issue I guess
But the worst thing is my life was a loss that nearly destroyed me - and I had injured my rotator cuff (shoulder) in an accident and I can tell you the pain of what I lost was far worse than any physical pain I have had
From that day on I turned my life toward the social betterment of disenfranchised young people and grew inside and outside
Maybe you are not ready to do this yet - maybe you can start small - we all need projects to give us the get up and go before it gets up and goes - and yet through all my years and tears can still feel the pain of my loss - and I live through it
That term - "suck it up" really bugs me. No one would be told to suck it up if they really could
No one stays in the pits cause they like it there - well - maybe there are some - but if people like you are reaching out for help I am pretty sure you don't need to be told - you are getting your boots and socks on most days and Jammie Days are okay if we need them
I know that terrible pain that cuts our heart and drives is to our knees crying our prayer - you are not alone - I bet every one here has done that from time to time
I am thinking of you - you have been through so much so young - you haven't had time to live your life yet and many of your choices have been taken away already
But take a good look at what you still have - and go on from there
Lots of hugz
Lin
Severe inoperable lumbar spine pain from severe L4/L5 disc impingment with lesser impingment at L3/L4 and L5/S1.
Increasing spinal cord canal stenosis, restricted lumbar lordosis,facet joint damage and osteo-arthritis. Probable cause - delayed sporting injuries. Migraine. Severe left rotator cuff damage after MVA - two surgeries - 1986, 1994 - second procedure successful acromioplasty but I still have a tricky shoulder - intra-articular steroid injections usually work well if done properly
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Thank you for your kind and very wise words. I am terribly terribly sorry that you went through a loss so hard to come back from. Some days are better than others, when it comes to coping, and I cannot thank everyone on this forum, including you, enough for your continued responses to my utterly emotional messages.
I do like the question you pose: why is it that sceptics work so hard it disprove someone else's reality?
I think in everyone's own individual way, they can understand that in so many ways. I was always treated with hostility from doctors if there was a sense in the least I was nervous or distrustful, but to hear that I am not alone, it helps. I so wish more people, or more "normals" would try to understand Chronic Pain, and even there be campaigns for more research, like runs, or walk your dogs to raise money, or something, ya know? I think it would be easier to cope if it wasn't so invisible to the world.
Thank you again,for alllll of the support. I hope I can offer the same.
<hugs>
Traumatic digital neuropathy; Anemia; Anxiety; Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Colitis; RSD; Insomnia and Chronic fatigue; Arthritis.
I can tell from what you write and how you write that you are doing some hard work about your inner life and trying to accept your situation
This is the hardest work we have to do - and I am proud that you are making steps to a better future in spite of all you have against you
I have no idea why it is that there are people who have a compulsive need to be on the "convince everyone else that there is only one opinion" -
I have the feeling that you have had to deal with this kind of issue a lot in your short life - and I have a sister who is the only person in the world whose right - so I certainly know something about your battered feeling
My thoughts on this issue is that
All our feelings are valid
even if they are not
always sound
This means that every thing we feel is right for us - even if it doesn't hold true for other people. I have no idea why people have to have the only "right" feelings about things - nor why they feel they have the right to change our opinions - and of course the reverse is true - we need to extend that to them
If I ever had a role in life it would be to allow everyone the right to their choices - even if those choices made up eyes sorta screw up
You are right about the invisibility of chronic pain - I have been through my 16th winter - and I know why people can't see the injury - can't really understand the pain - it would be good to have a
Year for people with Chronic Pain
To raise awareness that there are many people with many degrees of pain and for multiple reasons
As far as support goes - I have found more support in this group than I have anywhere else - and as I can see the improvement in your situation as you struggle with your bitterness - I am pretty sure you will overcome much more - and with time - you will be a great support to other young people who have had to face so much so soon
You are well on your way
Lin
Severe inoperable lumbar spine pain from severe L4/L5 disc impingment with lesser impingment at L3/L4 and L5/S1.
Increasing spinal cord canal stenosis, restricted lumbar lordosis,facet joint damage and osteo-arthritis. Probable cause - delayed sporting injuries. Migraine. Severe left rotator cuff damage after MVA - two surgeries - 1986, 1994 - second procedure successful acromioplasty but I still have a tricky shoulder - intra-articular steroid injections usually work well if done properly
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